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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 24, 2013 9:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: policy on commercially released shows on the archive

There's no reason why any release should "sell out" anymore. Perhaps they're trying to create a collector's item? Now even people who feel strongly about purchasing official releases and supporting the organization have no choice but to resort to pirating. Seems like a pretty awful business model to me.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Mar 24, 2013 10:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: policy on commercially released shows on the archive

dead.net is an absolute disgrace.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 25, 2013 2:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: policy on commercially released shows on the archive

Pirating would happen anyways. I have no experience in business, but it seems to me that Rhino has calculated exactly how much they want to make from each release and has developed a model that assures they make exactly that amount and do so in relatively short time. They have very little inventory, if any sitting around on the day they ship. Clearly they also believe that they make more money from selling discs than doing digital downloads. I am not sure why this is the case, but its pretty obvious they aren't interested in downloads, at least for the Grateful Dead. Remember the band's cut is guaranteed, so the business decisions are really Rhino's. GDP still has a lot to do with the creative decisions.

It is also a lucrative and timely development for four musicians who are in deep middle-age, either 60 or over or close to it. While the terms of the deal were not disclosed, "it's a lot of money," said Tim Jorstad, a San Rafael-based accountant who is the Dead's chief financial officer in Marin.

"We negotiated a profit sharing with Rhino with some very large minimum payments each year," he said. "We have replaced their income, at one of their highest earning years, for 10 years. We are expecting to earn way more than the minimum payments, but at least these guys are very well protected. They're pleased that they have financial security for 10 years."

http://www.marinij.com/ci_4136208

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 25, 2013 7:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: policy on commercially released shows on the archive

Ha--"deep middle age"...I guess no one likes to admit they are "old", ya know?!

I am constantly surprised/amused/bewildered by folks that simply will not accept they are old...personally, I can't wait; it's so liberating ("sorry, no--I am too old for that").

The band members in 06 might have been only recently moved past 60, w Bob the one exception, but given their birth dates, they (statistically) are likely well into their final quartile.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 25, 2013 7:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: policy on commercially released shows on the archive

What do you mean you can't wait? You aren't already old? I just assumed that anyone that stopped going to shows before i finished high school had to be a fossil. Kind of like UU.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 25, 2013 9:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: policy on commercially released shows on the archive

Hey, L-bow...

photo oldfart.jpg

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 25, 2013 8:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: policy on commercially released shows on the archive

Oh yeah--haven't you noticed the respect with which I am treated around this place? People holding open virtual doors, reading the fine print for me, poiting out the easy to digest (early is better) music menu items?

I was sitting around having beers w a bunch of academics, all past 40, and when someone mentioned (me, probably) that we were past our "mid-pts": the reaction was stunning...not a single one would accept it was highly likely that most of the "group" had less time to live than had already passed (ie, that it was likely half would not reach much more than 80-85).

And these are people for which statistics are a way of life?

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 25, 2013 8:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: policy on commercially released shows on the archive

One more day
I find myself alive
tomorrow
maybe go
beneath
the ground

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 25, 2013 8:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: policy on commercially released shows on the archive

Most definitely there's a heck of a lot more years behind me than there is ahead of me, and it's also pretty certain that barring some unforeseen circumstance of lottery-winning proportions (and even then...) the years that have gone are likely to have been a lot better on the whole than the years that may be.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Mar 25, 2013 10:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: policy on commercially released shows on the archive

Speak up, sonny. I can't hear you.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 25, 2013 9:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: policy on commercially released shows on the archive

Good Afternoon Sunshine.

I know the glass may no longer be half full, but i am sure it ain't bone dry either.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 25, 2013 9:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: policy on commercially released shows on the archive

That's doubtless true, but you know I'm just not hitting the high notes like I use to. Still, as someone or other said, if the wine, women and song are getting too much for you - give up singing.

And we can always share the first two.
(Another Sneaky Grateful Dead Reference)

Good day to you too. Hope all is well where you are.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Mar 25, 2013 5:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: policy on commercially released shows on the archive

by letting any given release sell out they also create an urgency on any future releases thus ensuring that these releases sell out as well...

on the other hand the profit margin for any given release has got to be great enough that re-issues would far be a better business decision than allowing the obvious piracy to occur, knowing that "deadheads" are gonna get copies one way or another.

just a penny and a half.

This post was modified by RBNW....new and improved! on 2013-03-25 12:13:31